Joe Horn Texas Vigilante?
The Joe Horn case is a hot debate. So many liberals and conservatives are spin, spin, spinning, that I feel the urge to cut through the BS and make things SIMPLE.
Ever since 61-year-old Texan Joe Horn fatally shot two men he suspected of burglarizing his next-door neighbor’s home, he has been praised and condemned for his actions. He was found not guilty today.
Here’s what happened:
Horn saw two men robbing his neighbor’s house. They had loot, and were coming out of his windows.
Horn called 911, and explained everything.
The 911 operator told him to stay put, so he would not get hurt.
Horn thought that the police would take too long, and that his neighbor’s property would be stolen, so he left his home with his licensed shotgun and shot the men.
That should be the end of story. He should not have been forced to go to court, get all the press, and be the subject and tool of people with agendas. But in the U.S., a guy can’t even shoot CRIMINALS CAUGHT IN THE ACT who ran on his YARD without getting ripped.
Texas law is on his side.
It’s as simple as that.
Read on if you want to hear SPIN:
- The liberals say Texas law is OLD, and outdated, and his lawyer used 1800’s code to wrap neighbor’s property into it.
- That Horn wasn’t in danger himself, therefore it wasn’t self-defense.
- That Horn disobeyed the 9/11 call.
- He told the 9/11 dispatcher: “I’m not going to let them get away with it” and “I’m gonna kill them.”
- That Horn wanted to kill Hispanics.
- That Horn tailor made and created the situation by charging these men, whom we should sympathize for.
- That society’s fabric will be destroyed if we allow “exceptions” like Horn taking “the law into his own hands”.
- With all our sophistication, we’re still a part of the Old West.
- Property is more valuable than life.
- He shot those guys in the BACK!
- Can homeowners kill ANYONE on their property?
And from the conservatives:
- He’s a HERO.
- The two criminals were ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, DRUG ADDICTS, and CAREER CRIMINALS.
- Our society would be better OFF if Horn was your neighbor.
- 1973 law is clear: a person is justified in using deadly force to protect a neighbor’s property from burglary if the person reasonably believes deadly force is immediately necessary to stop the burglars from escaping with the stolen property, and if the shooter reasonably believes that “the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means.”
- The scum were IN HIS YARD, too.
- What has society come to when we are defending illegal immigrants who are breaking into our homes?
- They were running to ATTACK him, and who knows what ELSE they were going to do?
- Horn was HELPING society.
- Why is it as soon as someone takes INITIATIVE, they get blacklisted?
What does LME (lazy man ethics ™) say? Keep in mind, society is worse because of LME.
LME says he should have done nothing, not even call.
LME says that if he did call, he definitely should not have left his house.
That should tell you a lot.
Now, how about my Buddhist perspective?
The Truth is that property doesn’t really mean much in the grand scheme of things. Horn took the initiative to defend society, and he is paying for that. As an older man, he comes from a generation where people should be walking on other people’s property. He has to live locked in his home now. He’ll probably be killed one of these days.
Violence is a never-ending cycle. As far as the two criminals- it was their karma that put them in that situation, and I am not crying, nor defending them. They have a lot of karma to burn off now, and, to a lesser extent, so does Horn. But in this case, Texas law was on Horn’s side. Cosmic law? Well, that works in mysterious ways, beyond some judge. It has to do with Horn’s intentions- something we cannot know.
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These criminals got what they deserved. If they valued their lives they should have surrendered when confronted.
In the back or in the back of the head. Commit you special little crime in Texas and we will KILL you.
I love that these guys were crawling out of the window WITH the loot in their hands and headline news calls them “suspected robbers.” If any of these liberal news media new anything about journalism then they’d know that you can’t libel the dead. So call them what they were, BURGLARS. It’s a cshame that they didn’t give up when Mr Horn confronted them. They’d be in jail but they’d be alive.
Put aside a moment who the victims were, who the shooter is. When did we lose our moral compass, that says property is more valuable than human life?
Where, pray tell me, are juries of our peers, sentencing to death, burglars?
Human instinct when facing imminent death, is to run! Human instinct when afraid for your life, is to barricade yourself, not walk calmly towards ones fear and proclaim for one and all to hear, your dead, and proceed to shoot unarmed men in the back!
Even in the Old West, it was considered cowardly to shoot a man in the back!
I have never heard of a Hero shooting anyone in the back!
This is not only a very sad commentary on Texan Mentality, it is an egregious example, of moral decay the very fabric of our society.
This is a tragic moment in our history, that tarnishes the very foundation our country was founded, not one to stand proud hand to chest when we recite The Pledge of Allegiance!
I hope this incident is a deterrent to future burglars. The police do nothing to deter crime on their own.
Anonymous 2…the moral compass must also include not to break in a private home and not to steal someone else’s property.
If I ever did that, I would expect to get shot.
Great work as usual Damian, you outlined both sides, and gave your opinion.
I can’t see how people can DEFEND criminals CAUGHT. IN. THE. ACT.
One problem is that it now gives everyone permission to KILL someone on your neighbor’s lawn. What happens if you don’t like your neighbor who forgot his keys. Now he’s crawling through his window wearing a hat. Now you “pretend” you *thought* you saw a burglar, and killed the neighbor you don’t like.
That’s a different set of circumstances. Joe Horn caught two legitimate thieves on his neighbor’s property and they were on Horn’s property to. Horn is 100% legally correct.
it’s a war zone in texas. trust me, i live there and the mexicans are bandits.
Mistah Horn needs our protection.
let la policia do their jobs!! horn ain’s trained to make an arrest. he just wanted mi hermanos dead!
A side affect of breaking and entering is death.
You can’t be serious ! How is this not premeditated murder? This cowardly man made a choice to be judge and jury and execute two HUMAN beings. How can that be his right? How was his life in danger inside his house, where he should have remained and let the police handle it? I bet this guy thinks he’s a Christian too. But that didn’t stop him from playing GOD.
Shame, shame, shame on this morally corrupt excuse for a human being. BW
BW, ever read comic books? Super-heroes do this all the time.